Jacob Chris Hammes is an artist, curator, teacher, and founder of the gallery Pilot Projects. In this podcast Morgan Nitz and Roberta talk with Chris about funding, the importance of discourse, seasonal- (and capitalism fueled-) depression, pond theory, and hear a few jokes. Catch Jacob Chris Hammes’s upcoming solo show, at the new gallery, Information, 2024 E Westmoreland St, on April 13th, 2019. The interview was recorded at Pilot Projects and is 31:40 minutes.